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Norton Twin Performance Comments
Displacement |
Norton twins have been built in several different displacements with four different bores & three different strokes. In addition, some alternate displacements can be had by substitution of aftermarket parts. Here are some of the more common possible choices with comments on application. |
Norton non-unit (big) twin bore & stroke data |
ID | Type | Size, CC | Bore, MM | Bore, Inches | Stroke, MM | Stroke, Inches | Rod, Inches | Rod, MM | Rod Ratio | 4K P-speed | 5K P-speed |
1 | 88 | 497 | 66 | 2.598 | 72.6 | 2.874 | 6.000 | 152.4 | 2.099:1 | 8,397 | 10,496 |
2 | 99 | 596 | 68 | 2.667 | 82 | 3.228 | 5.875 | 149.2 | 1.820:1 | 7,435 | 9,294 |
3 | Manxman, 650SS | 646 | 89 | 3.504 | 1.676:1 | 6,849 | 8,562 |
4 | Atlas | 745 | 73 | 2.874 |
5 | Commando | 827 | 76.9 | 3.028 |
6 | Big bore 1 | 917 | 81 | 3.189 |
7 | Big bore 2 | 952 | 82.5 | 3.248 |
8 | Big bore 3 | 964 | 81 | 3.189 | 93.5 | 3.681 | 1.596:1 | 6,520 | 8,150 |
9 | Big bore 4 | 1000 | 82.5 | 3.248 |
10 | Maney destroked | 499 | 73 | 2.874 | 59.6 | 2.346 | 2.451:1 | 10,228 | 12,785 |
11 | 750 RH2 | 747 | 76.9 | 3.028 | 80.4 | 3.165 | 1.817:1 | 7,582 | 9,478 |
18 | | 745 | 73 | 2.874 | 89 | 3.504 | 6.400 | 162.6 | 1.826:1 | 6,849 | 8,562 |
12 | Long rod 850 | 827 | 76.9 | 3.028 | 6.100 | 154.9 | 1.741:1 |
13 | Long rod 1000 | 1000 | 82.5 | 3.248 | 93.5 | 3.681 | 1.657:1 | 6,520 | 8,150 |
17 | Short stroke 500 | 494 | 68 | 2.667 | 68 | 2.667 | 5.875 | 152.4 | 2.194:1 | 8,965 | 11,206 |
Norton unit (small) twin bore & stroke data |
ID | Type | Size, CC | Bore, MM | Bore, Inches | Stroke, MM | Stroke, Inches | Rod, Inches | Rod, MM | Rod Ratio | 4K P-speed | 5K P-speed |
14 | Jubilee | 249 | 60 | 2.362 | 44 | 1.732 | | | | 13,857 | 17,321 |
15 | Navigator | 349 | 63 | 2.480 | 56 | 2.205 | 4.3125 | 109.5 | 1.956:1 | 10,886 | 13,607 |
16 | Electra | 383 | 66 | 2.598 |
“4K, 5K P-speed”: RPM at 4,000, 5,000 feet per minute mean piston speed |
ID:
1. Model 88
2. Model 99
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4. Atlas, early Commando
5. Commando 850
6., 7. Big bore
8., 9. Big bore, stroker crankshaft
10. 500 special short-stroke racer, 850 bore
11. 750 special short-stroke racer, 850 bore
12. 850, MAP special long rods
13. Big bore, MAP special long rods
14. 1958-66, rod length unknown
15. 1960-65
16. 1963-65
17. Billet short-stroke crank, Commando rods |
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Cam Timing Adjustment in Small Increments |
The std. Norton twin 48 tooth cam drive gear runs at 50% engine speed off the 24 tooth pinion gear, as shown here. A full rotation of the camshaft is 720 engine degrees. Click the picture for a larger view.
Each gear tooth gives a 15° change in cam position: 720° ÷ 48 = 15°.
The two cam sprockets, one each on the drive gear and the cam itself, each have 18 chain teeth, each gives a 20° degree change: 720° ÷ 18 = 40°. |
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In addition to these two increments (15° & 40°), the difference between them can also be used by advancing one and retarding the other. Please note that these adjustments advance or retard the intake and exhaust functions simultaneously; changing the relative position of the intake and exhaust lobes requires a cam change. Below is a table of alternate positions and their effects. Calculations are limited to a range of 20° as being of the most practical use. |
Cam Timing Increments: Stock Sprockets
To retard the cam | Gear teeth @ 15° | Sprocket teeth @ 40° | | To advance the cam | Gear teeth @ 15° | Sprocket teeth @ 40° |
- 5° | - 3 | + 1 | + 5° | + 3 | - 1 |
-10° | + 2 | - 1 |
+10° | - 2 | + 1 |
-15° | - 1 | std. | +15° | + 1 | std. |
-20° | - 4 | + 1 | +20° | + 4 | - 1 | |
Alternate Cam Drive Sprocket Choices
BritBike Forum contributor “beltdriveman” suggests that much finer increments of camshaft position can be obtained by substituting two 17 tooth engine sprockets and the triplex primary chain from a Triumph Tiger Cub (200cc single cylinder OHV); a half-link must be added to the chain for proper length and tension. The movement per sprocket tooth becomes larger at 42.353°: 720° ÷ 17 = 42.353°.
In several instances there are more than one combination of gear vs. tooth alternates that will give the same result within less then .5°; in the interest of brevity only the combination with the fewest teeth is displayed. In addition, even more alternate positions can be obtained by use of an offset key or a vernier cam sprocket. |
Cam Timing Increments: 17 Tooth Cub Sprockets
To retard the cam | Gear teeth @ 15° | Sprocket teeth @ 42.353° | | To advance the cam | Gear teeth @ 15° | Sprocket teeth @ 42.353° |
- 1° | -17 | + 6 | + 1° | +17 | - 6 |
- 2° | +14 | - 5 | + 2° | -14 | + 5 |
- 3° | - 3 | + 1 | + 3° | + 3 | - 1 |
- 4° | +11 | - 4 |
+ 4° | -11 | + 4 |
- 5° | - 6 | + 2 |
+ 5° | + 6 | - 2 |
- 6° | -23 | + 8 |
+ 6° | +23 | - 8 |
- 7° | + 8 | - 3 | + 7° | - 8 | + 3 |
- 8° | - 9 | + 3 | + 8° | + 9 | - 3 |
- 9° | +22 | - 8 | + 9° | -22 | + 8 |
-10° | + 5 | - 2 |
+10° | - 5 | + 2 |
-11° | -12 | + 4 | +11° | -12 | + 4 |
-12° | + 2 | - 1 | +12° | - 2 | + 1 |
-13° | -15 | + 5 | +13° | -15 | + 5 |
-14° | +16 | - 6 | +14° | -16 | + 6 |
-15° | - 1 | std. | +15° | + 1 | std. |
-16° | -18 | + 6 | +16° | +18 | - 6 |
-17° | +13 | - 5 | +17° | -13 | + 5 |
-18° | - 4 | + 1 | +18° | + 4 | - 1 |
-19° | +10 | - 4 | +19° | -10 | + 4 |
-20° | - 7 | + 2 | +20° | + 7 | - 2 |
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These scans were (shamelessly) copied without permission from “Norton 850 Hop Up” by Jody Nicholas, appearing in the May 1974 issue of “Cycle World”. Click on each thumbnail for a full-size version on a separate page. |
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